Steven:
Yes I am absolutely backing out of traveling 1 1/2 hours for a pointless conversation. I have my ads posted in Lawton also. I was wrong in assuming you lived locally. I don't get many responses from okc. So yes. You can tell everyone you win. Lol you defeated the stupid Christian in a battle of wits! If I thought your mind was open at all to change I would be more excited. But I myself was an atheist who despised the Bible so I know what it feels like. I appreciate your thoughts also because God still hears them. If you ever travel south get a hold of me.
Merphie: You asked me when and where; I answered. It is that simple. I am willing to travel but it may take some time to work out the details. We could meet half way but you just shut the door.
Please stop putting words in my mouth. I never said anyone was stupid nor is this a battle of wits. I said I care about what is true. this means you are making the claim and you have burden of proof.
Using a fallacy to justify something makes it false. I could think of a million examples using your fallacies that you would deny right off hand.
For example, I know a Muslim friend who had a personal experience where Allah showed his mercy helping him get off drugs. does that mean your god is wrong and Allah is correct? if not, then does that mean you just have a closed mind even though Allah loves you anyway? How do you know it was the Christian god? perhaps you experienced Buddha? how can you tell the difference? now you have to prove it was the Christian god in addition to proving there are any gods.
I know people who have stopped using drugs without supernatural beliefs. I also know the first step in AA is to admit you are weak and can't stop on your own. they aren't picky about what helps you. this suggest there is a placebo affect at work.
regardless I admire that you got off drugs and violence. in my opinion, you deserve all the credit for turning your life around. there isn't a god which means you are stronger than you realize. you should be saying "I changed my life by getting off drugs. I helped creating my family".
Your assumptions are wrong. I don't despise the bible. you don't know anything about me. so it's not possible for you to know what its like. you will learn far more by asking a question than making an assumption.
I don't know what kind of "atheist" you were but its irrelevant. atheism describes someone's position on one topic. is there a god? if you answer no then you are an atheist. that's it. You can't tell anything else about a person that is an atheist.
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