What feminist don't want you to know
Recently, I got involved in an online discussion about feminism. I decided to researcthis topic in depth and write a blog about the the common themes I encountered in the discussion. The research for this post took longer than I anticipated. I am not the type who does a quick google then after a quick read assume the results support my position. I will break this up into multiple post to make it more manageable.
The discussion I was involved in quickly turned to ad hominem and shaming by the feminist as if talking about social issues concerning men is being sexist and "blaming the victim". To a feminist, the victim is always female and the perpetrator is always male. The common tactic of shaming is used by feminist to silence critics because they are not interested in equality or openly discussing ideas. When someone is advocating for the rights of one gender, it doesn't follow that they are against the rights of the other. I accept that sexism exist in the world, but it isn't the sexism that feminist claim. Feminism was never about equal rights and has become toxic to society today.
Definition
The claim is that feminism is about equal women's rights. This is often the first fallacy [1] used by feminist to rationalize their position. There are gendered equality issues on both sides and today there are far more male than female issues. Even if you assume that feminism is just about equality, as the dictionary claims, then the problem is who defines what equality is. Feminist only measure one side of the equation. If a feminist was truly about equality then they would at least be willing to listen to men's issues.
The proponents of the movement give themselves an "ism" label that by it's definition excludes issues affecting half of the human population. Feminist are pushing for special rights where equality already exists.
All feminist rely on an appeal to some form of "patriarchy theory" to explain their position. At least I have never heard any other justification. If they don't specifically call it "patriarchy" then they will define it during the discussion. Patriarchy is the idea that women have always been subjugated and oppressed by men for the sole purpose and benefit of men. For any theory to work it must be falsifiable. This means that there must be an outcome or event that could destroy the theory and force the author to start over. However, feminist play on both sides of the argument by claiming that anything that proves the theory wrong actually proves the theory making it impossible to disprove. Patriarchy is a threat narrative by design and sets a "us versus them" grouping. The basic idea of a threat narrative is to make a select group of people look like the cause of all the problems of another group of people. This type of propaganda has been used through out time to justify the most horrible acts.
NAFALT
Almost every feminist I've spoken too will eventually claim "Not all feminist are like that" (NAFALT) which is a "no true scotsman" fallacy. [2] Every group of feminist thinks those outside their group have the wrong philosophy. Everyone inside the group thinks their brand is mainstream and the correct one. It's amusing to witness a feminist call another one a "labia trader".
It's a fallacy because the argument isn't what all feminist are like because it varies from person to person. There's no reason for a person to be attached to the word feminist. Someone who supports equal rights would be better served calling themself a humanist. The feminist I am talking about are those that matter in the world today and not the coffee shop variety.
They type of feminism we should be concerned with is the mainstream, scholarly, acedemics, movements, and the organizations. Any feminist that matters is the issue because their ideology is toxic and inspires laws and policies. The feminist ideology invents social issues and proposes solutions to the imaginary problem. If men and women are equal then fixing imaginary feminist problems will shift the balance to biased against men. I will show how some of the ideas are making into law and affecting us all.
Feminism is not the same thing as women's rights. There is a lot of ideology and philosophy under the feminism umbrella and nearly everything a feminist says is wrong because it's based on false statistics or can't be proven. Even when a feminist hypothesis is shown to be wrong they won't let it go. All feminist believe in common concepts.
Who are Feminist?
The problem is what people are doing in the name of feminism and these ideas are making it into law. Looking at most of the leaders of the "2nd wave" feminism and you will see a collection of sociopaths who were abused at some point in their life. Their mantra has been "make the personal political" which means to take your personal damage and make it a problem for other people.
The poster child would be Valerie Solanas [3] who wrote the S.C.U.M manifesto. The meaning of "SCUM" is somewhat debated but the contents of the book are not. In her book she describes as the only solution to imaginary problems is to kill all the males in the world. She later tried to implement her plan with a failed attempt to kill Andy Warhol. She died in 1988 but many feminist still claim she is a hero of the movement.
Feminist haven't improved much in recent times. Women like like "Femitheist Divine" advocated a "National Castration Day" where any man who refused to be castrated would just be killed. [4] This person later faked rumors about her suicide to gain attention after she was largely ignored even by fellow feminist. The video detailing her final solution appears to be removed but a Google search will still show a few mirrors. [5] There was not a single feminist who denounced her message or protested it.
More examples can be found in places like RadFem Hub where feminist calmly talk about killing males. The "Agent Orange Files" is a collection of evidence from the hub showing women openly talking about hurting and killing males of all ages for imaginary offenses. [6] These people are not radicals in the shadows. Some of the members are childcare workers, teachers, government employees, and women from every walk of life. Where are the massive protest of the "NAFALT" feminist to get this group branded a hate group? Where are the groups to flag their videos and material?
How about feminist who claim that every form of heterosexual sex is rape? [7] This idea isn't isolated to a few followers of feminism. It has been recycled repeatedly since the beginning of the movement.
How safe would your male baby to be in the arms of a woman who thinks he is the problem and a future rapist? It should come as no surprise when someone decides the only solution is too kill men when they believe an ideology like patriarchy theory which asserts that women are the victim of men and always have been.
This is only a small list and more examples of mainstream feminist thought can be found at this site. Here are a few quotes from prominent modern feminist.
Robin Morgan (Ms Magazine Editor)
"I feel that "man-hating" is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." [8]
"All the discriminatory practices against women are patterned and rationalized by this slavery-like practice. We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." [8]
“I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.”
Andrea Dworkin
"Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." [10]
"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."
"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice."
"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." [11]
Sandy Brown
"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression..." [12]
Catherine Comins (assistant dean of student life at Vassar)
"They have a lot of pain, but it is not a pain that I would necessarily have spared them. I think it ideally initiates a process of self-exploration. 'How do I see women?' 'If I didn't violate her, could I have?' 'Do I have the potential to do to her what they say I did?' Those are good questions.'"
(Explaining how a man's life ruined by a false accusation of rape is a good thing)
Hilary Clinton
"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children." [13]
She is saying that men aren't victims of their own deaths and minimizing the suffering of half the human population. Yet, If she had said something like "Whites were the primary victims of slavery..." then she would have been denounced all over the media and out of a job.
There are many more examples like this from feminist. The goal of these post is to highlight the damage being done by feminist and not to focus on any single person.
Sources: (Revision 2)
I would like to give special thanks to the people at Exposing Feminism for their assistance with the research.
All feminist rely on an appeal to some form of "patriarchy theory" to explain their position. At least I have never heard any other justification. If they don't specifically call it "patriarchy" then they will define it during the discussion. Patriarchy is the idea that women have always been subjugated and oppressed by men for the sole purpose and benefit of men. For any theory to work it must be falsifiable. This means that there must be an outcome or event that could destroy the theory and force the author to start over. However, feminist play on both sides of the argument by claiming that anything that proves the theory wrong actually proves the theory making it impossible to disprove. Patriarchy is a threat narrative by design and sets a "us versus them" grouping. The basic idea of a threat narrative is to make a select group of people look like the cause of all the problems of another group of people. This type of propaganda has been used through out time to justify the most horrible acts.
NAFALT
Almost every feminist I've spoken too will eventually claim "Not all feminist are like that" (NAFALT) which is a "no true scotsman" fallacy. [2] Every group of feminist thinks those outside their group have the wrong philosophy. Everyone inside the group thinks their brand is mainstream and the correct one. It's amusing to witness a feminist call another one a "labia trader".
It's a fallacy because the argument isn't what all feminist are like because it varies from person to person. There's no reason for a person to be attached to the word feminist. Someone who supports equal rights would be better served calling themself a humanist. The feminist I am talking about are those that matter in the world today and not the coffee shop variety.
They type of feminism we should be concerned with is the mainstream, scholarly, acedemics, movements, and the organizations. Any feminist that matters is the issue because their ideology is toxic and inspires laws and policies. The feminist ideology invents social issues and proposes solutions to the imaginary problem. If men and women are equal then fixing imaginary feminist problems will shift the balance to biased against men. I will show how some of the ideas are making into law and affecting us all.
Feminism is not the same thing as women's rights. There is a lot of ideology and philosophy under the feminism umbrella and nearly everything a feminist says is wrong because it's based on false statistics or can't be proven. Even when a feminist hypothesis is shown to be wrong they won't let it go. All feminist believe in common concepts.
Who are Feminist?
The problem is what people are doing in the name of feminism and these ideas are making it into law. Looking at most of the leaders of the "2nd wave" feminism and you will see a collection of sociopaths who were abused at some point in their life. Their mantra has been "make the personal political" which means to take your personal damage and make it a problem for other people.
The poster child would be Valerie Solanas [3] who wrote the S.C.U.M manifesto. The meaning of "SCUM" is somewhat debated but the contents of the book are not. In her book she describes as the only solution to imaginary problems is to kill all the males in the world. She later tried to implement her plan with a failed attempt to kill Andy Warhol. She died in 1988 but many feminist still claim she is a hero of the movement.
Feminist haven't improved much in recent times. Women like like "Femitheist Divine" advocated a "National Castration Day" where any man who refused to be castrated would just be killed. [4] This person later faked rumors about her suicide to gain attention after she was largely ignored even by fellow feminist. The video detailing her final solution appears to be removed but a Google search will still show a few mirrors. [5] There was not a single feminist who denounced her message or protested it.
More examples can be found in places like RadFem Hub where feminist calmly talk about killing males. The "Agent Orange Files" is a collection of evidence from the hub showing women openly talking about hurting and killing males of all ages for imaginary offenses. [6] These people are not radicals in the shadows. Some of the members are childcare workers, teachers, government employees, and women from every walk of life. Where are the massive protest of the "NAFALT" feminist to get this group branded a hate group? Where are the groups to flag their videos and material?
How about feminist who claim that every form of heterosexual sex is rape? [7] This idea isn't isolated to a few followers of feminism. It has been recycled repeatedly since the beginning of the movement.
How safe would your male baby to be in the arms of a woman who thinks he is the problem and a future rapist? It should come as no surprise when someone decides the only solution is too kill men when they believe an ideology like patriarchy theory which asserts that women are the victim of men and always have been.
This is only a small list and more examples of mainstream feminist thought can be found at this site. Here are a few quotes from prominent modern feminist.
Robin Morgan (Ms Magazine Editor)
"I feel that "man-hating" is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them." [8]
"All the discriminatory practices against women are patterned and rationalized by this slavery-like practice. We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage." [8]
“I claim that rape exists any time sexual intercourse occurs when it has not been initiated by the woman, out of her own genuine affection and desire.”
Andrea Dworkin
"Under patriarchy, every woman's son is her potential betrayer and also the inevitable rapist or exploiter of another woman." [10]
"I want to see a man beaten to a bloody pulp with a high-heel shoved in his mouth, like an apple in the mouth of a pig."
"Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice."
"Heterosexual intercourse is the pure, formalized expression of contempt for women's bodies." [11]
Sandy Brown
"When a woman reaches orgasm with a man she is only collaborating with the patriarchal system, eroticizing her own oppression..." [12]
Catherine Comins (assistant dean of student life at Vassar)
"They have a lot of pain, but it is not a pain that I would necessarily have spared them. I think it ideally initiates a process of self-exploration. 'How do I see women?' 'If I didn't violate her, could I have?' 'Do I have the potential to do to her what they say I did?' Those are good questions.'"
(Explaining how a man's life ruined by a false accusation of rape is a good thing)
Hilary Clinton
"Women have always been the primary victims of war. Women lose their husbands, their fathers, their sons in combat. Women often have to flee from the only homes they have ever known. Women are often the refugees from conflict and sometimes, more frequently in today’s warfare, victims. Women are often left with the responsibility, alone, of raising the children." [13]
She is saying that men aren't victims of their own deaths and minimizing the suffering of half the human population. Yet, If she had said something like "Whites were the primary victims of slavery..." then she would have been denounced all over the media and out of a job.
There are many more examples like this from feminist. The goal of these post is to highlight the damage being done by feminist and not to focus on any single person.
Topics
Sources: (Revision 2)
I would like to give special thanks to the people at Exposing Feminism for their assistance with the research.
- https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/appeal-to-authority
- https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/no-true-scotsman
- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Solanas
- http://www.youtube.com/user/FemitheistReborn/videos (The video appears to have been removed)
- http://youtu.be/OSaT9utl4Ys
- http://agentorangefiles.com/
- http://witchwind.wordpress.com/2013/12/15/piv-is-always-rape-ok/
- "Lesbianism and Feminism: Synonyms or Contradictions?", in Going Too Far: The Personal Chronicle of a Feminist, p 178.
- Morgan, Robin, ed., Sisterhood Is Powerful: An Anthology of Writings From the Women's Liberation Movement (N.Y.: Random House, 1st ed. 1970), p. 537.
- Our Blood (1976)
- Intercourse (1987) chapter 7, "Occupation/Collaboration"
- "Against our will", Sheila Jeffrys
- http://clinton3.nara.gov/WH/EOP/First_Lady/html/generalspeeches/1998/19981117.html
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